About Folklore.org

8Bit, 16bit, Atari, Commodore, Apple, Spectrum, Acorn, TSR. All now defunked computer systems.

About Folklore.org

Postby crustyasp46 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:49 am

About Folklore.org
last update: December 31, 2013
picasso_big.jpg

Folklore.org is a web site devoted to collective historical storytelling. It captures and presents sets of related stories that describe interesting events from multiple perspectives, allowing groups of people to recount their shared history in the form of interlinked anecdotes.

The site is structured as a series of projects containing related, interlinked stories. The stories are indexed by their characters and topics, and may be sorted by various criteria. Readers can rate the stories, and add comments, or other stories.

Folklore uses lots of relatively short anecdotes rather than a longer, monolithic narrative because anecdotes are inherently modular and extensible, so the story can be elaborated indefinitely by multiple authors, without compromising their individual voices. Interlinked anecdotes also leverage the definitive characteristic of the web, the link, to form little webs of their own, and be stitched into the greater tapestry of the web itself, in a fashion that's not possible on the printed page.

The initial version of this site was written in the fall of 2003, running on a single server in my basement. It was ported to run on Google AppEngine in the fall of 2013, so it will perform better when things get busy. I tried to stick with the same basic design and keep the URLs stable, but I took advantage of better browsers and made a few small improvements here and there. I probably introduced some bugs during the port, especially on the authoring side of things, so please send an email to bugs@folklore.org if you spot any that you'd like to see fixed.

Originally, I planned to host a variety of histories on Folklore, but we never got traction with other subjects. Here in 2013 I think there are better alternatives available, so I plan to stick with the current Apple-oriented focus here indefinitely. I hope to add more stories every once in a while, about both the pre-Mac Apple II days and the subsequent long evolution of the Macintosh platform.

Folklore maintains an RSS feed for tracking the latest stories. The url for the feed is http://www.folklore.org/folklore.xml.

The code behind the Folklore website is a set of scripts written in Python by Andy Hertzfeld. Susan Kare helped with lots of images and the overall look of the site.


Creative Commons License This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License.
Code: Select all
http://creativecommons.org/licenses
/by-nc/1.0/


Scrooge McDuck
Author: Andy Hertzfeld
Date: February 1980
Characters: Burrell Smith, Andy Hertzfeld, Jef Raskin, Tom Whitney, Bob Bishop, Cliff Huston, Dick Huston
Topics: Origins, Hardware Design, Prototypes
Summary: The very first image on the very first Macintosh
scrooge.jpg
scrooge.jpg (20.63 KiB) Viewed 2604 times

this image is similar to the first
image ever displayed on a Macintosh

Burrell Smith liked to do intensive design work over the Christmas break, so the very first prototype of the very first Macintosh sprung to life early in the first month of the new decade, in January 1980. It wasn't really a stand-alone computer yet, as the prototype resided on an Apple II peripheral card, but it already contained the essential hardware elements of Jef Raskin's Macintosh dream: a Motorola 6809E microprocessor, 64K of memory, and a 256 by 256 bit-mapped graphic frame buffer, which was hooked up to a cute, tiny 7 inch black and white display. Burrell used the Apple II host to poke values into the memory of the prototype, so he could initialize the control registers and run small programs with the 6809.


I went out to lunch with Burrell a few weeks later and, knowing my appreciation for Woz-like hardware hacks, he explained the crazy way that he contrived for the Apple II to talk with the prototype. He didn't want to waste time designing and wiring up hardware to synchronize the memory of the two machines, since that wouldn't be needed by the real product. Instead, he delegated the memory synchronization to the software, requiring the Apple II to hit a special memory address to tell the prototype how many microseconds later to grab data off of the common data bus. It was weird enough to make me interested in seeing if it really worked.

By now, Burrell thought that he had the graphics running properly, but he wasn't really sure; he still needed to write some software to try it out. I told him that I'd look into it when I had some time. He gave me a copy of a handwritten page that contained the magic addresses that I'd have to use, hoping that I'd get around to it soon.

I was used to coming back to the lab at Apple after dinner, to see if anything interesting was going on and working on various extra-curricular projects. I had some spare time that night, so I got out Burrell's instructions and wrote an Apple II (6502) assembly language routine to do the necessary bit-twiddling to transfer whatever was on the Apple II's hi-res graphic display to the Mac prototype's frame-buffer, using Burrell's unusual synchronization scheme.

One of my recent side projects involved using Woz's new, one-to-one interleave floppy disk routines to make very fast slideshow disks on the Apple II. I had just made one full of Disney cartoon characters, that were scanned by Bob Bishop, one of the early Apple software magicians. Bob adored the work of Carl Barks, the Disney artist who specialized in Donald Duck, and he had scanned dozens of Barks' Donald Duck images for the Apple II. I selected an image of Scrooge McDuck sitting on top of a huge pile of money bags, blithely playing his fiddle, with a big grin on his beak. I'm not sure why I picked that one, but it seemed to be appropriate for some reason.

Even though it was starting to get late, I was dying to see if my routine was working properly, and it would be very cool to surprise Burrell when he came in the next day with a detailed image on the prototype display. But when I went to try it, I noticed that Burrell's Apple didn't have a disk controller card, so there was no way to load my program. Damn! I couldn't shut the computer down to insert the card, because I didn't know how to reinitialize the Macintosh board after power-up; Burrell hadn't left the magic incantation for that. I thought I was stuck, and would have to wait until Burrell came in tomorrow.

The only other person in the lab that evening was Cliff Huston, who saw the trouble I was having. Cliff was another early Apple employee, who was Dick Huston's (the heroic programmer who wrote the 256-byte Apple II floppy disc boot ROM) older brother and an experienced, somewhat cynical technician. I explained the situation to him and was surprised when he started to smile.

Cliff told me that he could insert a disk controller card into Burrell's Apple II with the power still on, without glitching it out, a feat that I thought was miraculous - you'd have to be incredibly quick and steady not to short-circuit any of the contacts while you were inserting it, running the risk of burning out both the Apple II and the card. But Cliff said he'd done it many times before: all that was required was the confidence that you could actually do it. So I crossed my fingers as he approached Burrell's Apple like a samurai warrior, concentrating for a few seconds before holding his breath and slamming the disk card into the slot with a quick, stacatto thrust.

I could barely make myself look, but amazingly enough Burrell's machine was still running, and the disk booted up so I could load the Scrooge McDuck image and my new conversion routine. And even more suprising, my routine actually worked the first time, displaying a crisp rendition of Uncle Scrooge fiddling away on the Mac's tiny monitor. The Apple II only had 192 scan-lines, while the embryonic Macintosh had 256, so I had some extra room at the bottom where I rendered the message "Hi Burrell!" in a nice-looking twenty-four point, proportional font.

By the time I came in the next morning, an excited Burrell had already showed the image to everyone he could find, but then he accidentally reset the prototype somehow, and didn't know how to get the image back on the screen. I loaded it again so he could show it to Tom Whitney, the engineering VP. I think Jef was pretty pleased to see his new computer start to come alive, but I don't think he was very happy about me giving the demo, since he thought I was too much of a hacker, and I wasn't supposed to be involved with his pet project.

11 Comments
from Andy Hertzfeld on February 14, 2004 19:16:30
Since Folklore went public, some Disney collectors have tried to track down the original image, with Uncle Scrooge fiddling, but they didn't have any luck. I also asked Bob Bishop to go through his collection, but he couldn't find the image I described. So I guess it's possible that my memory is faulty here.

from Henry Spragens on February 25, 2004 04:41:38
I thought I remembered that image of Scrooge, so I went through my old Apple slide shows. No fiddling Scrooge here, but there is a picture of Donald fiddling on Bob Bishop's Color Slide Show, along with a couple of nice pictures of Scrooge sans fiddle.

from David Charlap on August 09, 2004 18:43:16
The original prototype was 6809 based? I find this interesting because my first computer, a Radio Shack TRS-80 CoCo, was (at least superficially) of a similar design. It was an 800KHz 6809E, with 16K memory (expandably to 32K directly and to 64K with a few hacks) and a display that went up to 256x192 graphics (at its highest resolution.) I always used to say that Radio Shack had the potential to blow away the Apple ][+ with this system, if only they would provide monitor output (instead of television-only) optional 80-column text and stop promoting it as a game machine. So when I just read about the initial Mac prototype card, I found it of particular interest. Obviously someone besides Radio Shack saw the benefit of the 6809 chip and also decided to use it in a home computer system (even if Apple did ultimately choose to use its 16-bit variant, the 68000.)

from Andy Hertzfeld on January 20, 2005 08:08:02
This is the first story that I wrote for the Folklore project, in June 2003 on the big island of Hawaii.

from Philip Stephens on September 22, 2005 22:58:35
Why do people continue to call the 68000 a 16-bit CPU? It is a 32-bit CPU, albeit with a 16-bit data bus. The original IBM PC used the 8088, which was a 16-bit CPU with an 8-bit data bus. I've never heard anyone call the original IBM PC an 8-bit computer, however. Let's not belittle the original Mac by calling it a 16-bit computer!

from Drew Page on September 23, 2005 16:46:05
800KHz? I wonder if he meant 8 Mhz. I too had a radio shack computer, but its was a TRS-80 model I. Anyways, its amazing that this Cliff guy was able to insert that card while the system was running. When I was in high school we used Apple IIe computers and I remember someone trying that with much less successful results. It is possible, but man, the timing is crucial. Cliff must have had a singular talent. I wonder though, if anyone tried that again after that incident? If so, was it successful? I guess the need to do that would be pretty limited, hehe.

from Riccardo Mori on December 30, 2006 22:47:09
This story is among my favourites of Folklore.org. Happy New Year, Andy! Rick

from John Romero on January 25, 2008 13:59:01
It boggles my mind to know that the Mac was being designed before I had even mastered Applesoft. Also, I used to plug and unplug interface cards in my ][+ and //e for years until I burned the mousecard doing it at which point I stopped.

from Seth Kelly on December 25, 2009 03:26:45
Excellent story. It illustrates how important a good technician is to a software developer. I am always thankful for the lab techs at work. It also made me chuckle at the great example of how precarious an environment software is often developed in.

from Ivaylo Varbanov on July 24, 2010 17:01:08
Around 1986 I was helping a friend of mine to load a demo program on Apple ][ clones - about 20 of them. The program was on a floppy disk, but didn't require the disk to run. It turned out that he had only one disk controller card working and we had to put the card in a computer, turn it on, load the program, run it and then pull the card out and move to the next computer. Only one froze after we pulled the card, but we put the card again and re-loaded the program. Everything worked fine on all computers.

from phoebus66 on March 18, 2013 18:42:57
TRS-80 was all 8bit and 4Mhz Z80 straightforward. My bachelor project was 1)TRS-80 (lol) 2)Pascal and 3)mnemonic code all in one. Used the supervisor @SVR routines and used native code for moving graphics. The was an Atari st doodle trying to show off alas his (finer in resolution) graphics were painstakingly slow....

Creative Commons License The text of this story is licensed under a Creative Commons License.
User avatar
crustyasp46
He's Everyones Daddy
He's Everyones Daddy
Next LVL Up at : 1750
Next LVL Up at : 1750
 
Posts: 1716
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:06 pm
Has thanked: 2653 times
Been thanked: 1006 times

Re: About Folklore.org

Postby Dragon Mech » Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:11 am

this was a fun read crusty. glad to see you back in the forums. :) :goodpost:
Site Moderator
For the Glory of the Gamer Nation!
Image
Image
User avatar
Dragon Mech
Site Moderator
Site Moderator
Next LVL Up at : 630
Next LVL Up at : 630
 
Posts: 612
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:58 pm
Location: Somewhere out there.
Has thanked: 570 times
Been thanked: 358 times
Fav System: Too many to list here :D

Re: About Folklore.org

Postby Hot Trout » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:51 pm

Great post and I am now following the link. Good to see you posting again my old friend.
Webmaster, Admin, Amiga Fan, Retro Gamer and Collector
Image
Image

Image
Click the banner to Join us on Discord
User avatar
Hot Trout
Unlimited Member
Unlimited Member
Next LVL Up at : 3650
Next LVL Up at : 3650
 
Posts: 3642
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:42 pm
Location: UK
Has thanked: 2233 times
Been thanked: 1954 times
Fav System: Amiga
Steam ID: hot_trout


Return to Retro Computing

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 33 guests